pete at clueball.com
Wed Aug 16 13:21:54 BST 2006
Someone has probably suggested this elsewhere, but I'm checking my email
via an AJAX application that's givn me a (poorly) emulated console from
which to run mutt, BUT, how about jobs.london.pm at london.pm.org?
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 08:57:10AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 06:48:40PM +0100, alex at owal.co.uk said:
> > I might know of a well paying perl gig but I'll be damned if I'll post
> > it here.
> I, as the shadowy alias behind the leader at london.pm.org email
> address, get quite a lot of mail from recruiters asking if its ok to
> post jobs or if I knew anyone.
> My big dilemma is not whether we'll overwhelm the list with posts from
> recruiters but that I'll be embarassed by the reaction of the list to
> the post.
> What we, as geeks and people immersed in a technical culture, tend to
> forget is that we are not normal. Nor do "outside" people who might only
> have a cursory aquaintance with our freakish tribe (and the freakish
> tribes of all the other people they might want to recruit) know every
> single in and out and inside joke and rule of (to them) arbitary
> etiquette that we've acculumated over the years.
> Whilst we may think it's hilariously backward that someone can't tell
> that a mail on a web page is from a mailing list rather than an
> individual there exists, amazing as it may seem, people who don't know
> what a mailing list is. In fact the whole process of email is actually
> fairly magical.
> Of course you[*] can't audit a company, optimise the aerodynamic flow
> over a wing section, cook 200 covers a night at a restaurant or edit a
> magazine either so basically we're even.
> So, I shall couch this in terms that I hope everyone will get. What you
> think is an incredibly witty and urbane response that is the nerd
> equivalent of flexing your muscles in front of the girls is what
> everyone else sees as a childish tirade that embarasses you, embarasses
> the list and embarasses the Perl community. So from now on I'll send an
> offlist warning and second offences will get you unsubbed. Yes, you can
> probably resub from one of your other quintillion domains. Yes, you
> think I'm a fascist. Yes, you can sub me to every spam list and porn
> relay that you can find. I'll cope.
> That's not to say that we can't talk about stuff - there's a genuine and
> interesting discussion to be had about the merits of screening
> applicants by CPAN uploads or Degree. But keep it civil.
> And if someone posts to the list breaking some rule of etiquette - leave
> it to the list admins to sort it out. If you want to become a list admin
> (or any admin) then mail me off list - we're always happy to have
> [*] I just *know* that someone is going to point out that they trained
> as an accountant before entering the lucrative and glamourous world of
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