Perl books (for ladies)
cos at indeterminate.net
Thu May 3 21:39:26 BST 2007
On Thu, 3 May 2007, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 08:38:24AM -0700, Ovid wrote:
> > --- amayer at ebi.ac.uk wrote:
> > > Didn't Portland.pm go the way of short-ish talks with ample martini's
> > > and later adjoining to a pub for games? Less boring perhaps.
> > More or less. It was made easier by the fact that Portland is slightly
> > smaller than London (*cough*) and that makes it easy to travel from the
> > geek to alcoholic venues.
> Does London have the same density of alcoholic venues as Portland?
> Otherwise I'm not certain what the advantage is. I'm assuming that Portland's
> public transport is roughly comparable with London's, on coverage.
There probably is an answer to this later but:
Portland has, or until recently had, the largest concentration of brewpubs
per capita on the planet (Bavaria may have edged them out recently).
A bit of googling reveals that Portland is 1/15th the size of London, but
has 5 times as many breweries (25 vs 5) within the city; this ratio
changes in London's favor (25 vs 11) if you include brewpubs in London's
The public transport system is excellent for a city of their size. There
is no Tube, but they have light rail, trolley, and a very good bus system.
The downtown core is walkable. There's a new tram, but I haven't been on
Portland's area is 130 square miles. Quite a bit of info is at
The brewery count doesn't include pubs, bars, or restaurants which, as I
see Ovid notes later, often hand out beer lists that are as extensive as
the wine lists. Higgins is one such place, and I recommend them highly.
Beer selections are local and global, and some places will pour a proper
pint by British standards (not chilled).
The lack of a Tube means that transit to certain parts of town is a little
pokey, either on foot or by mass transit, but there is a large ride-free
area that covers downtown and the convention center.
Right, I'm stopping myself before I start thinking about why I don't move
> Nicholas Clark
 Seattle has a better array of bookstores, for one.
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