Any Embperl / Modperl hosting ?

David Cantrell david at
Mon Feb 25 17:22:00 GMT 2008

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 06:11:01PM +0000, Bruce Richardson wrote:

> Strictly speaking, embperl is not a templating system; it is a way of
> embedding perl in html pages.  You can use it in the same way as you
> would use a templating system, if you apply very careful discipline, but
> why bother when proper templating systems are more powerful, more
> flexible and don't have the same weaknesses.

If you apply very careful discipline?  Huh?

I suppose that the sort of person who might write an application as one
100,000 line file might need to be a bit more disciplined, but that
applies regardless of whether he's writing a web page or not.

And anyway, TT lets you write some really hairy logic inside the
templates.  That's not a bad thing.  It's a *necessary* thing.  A
sensible programmer^Wtemplater will abstract that hairy logic out into a
seperate file, just like a sensible programmer would do in C or perl or
even PHP*.  I know that when I switched from using my home-brew system
to using TT, all I had to change was the templates, the vast bulk of the
code didn't need to be touched, just put in a slightly different wrapper
to get it to feed the templating engine correctly.

Really, the only practical differences between Embperl and TT are:

* TT has more "mind-share" and so other people have already done quite
  quite a bit of the hard work of extending it;
* TT has its own mini-language instead of re-using one that already

And that applies to TT vs your own home-brewed system too.  Yes, I know
your dirty little secret, you *have* written your own templating system,
I know.

* I assume that PHP permits this?

David Cantrell | Minister for Arbitrary Justice

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