Better Perl

Paul Makepeace paulm at
Fri Apr 4 11:46:02 BST 2008

On 4/4/08, Aaron Trevena <aaron.trevena at> wrote:
> On 04/04/2008, Paul Makepeace <paulm at> wrote:
>  > You mean like facebook? (PHP)
>  >  Or Wikipedia? (PHP)
>  >  Or Digg? (PHP)
>  >  Or Youtube? (Py)
>  >  Or Bebo? (ASP)
>  >  Or MySpace? (ASP)
>  >  Or Orkut? (was ASP)
>  >  Or (ASP)
>  >  Or * (Java, C++, Py)
>  >  Or about any other multi-box site you care to mention? (!Perl)
> How many of those still use Perl for cinderella jobs ?

The topic is what sites use primarily perl and JNS made the point
about business using PHP.

Who cares if some bod uses Perl on the command line for the odd bit of
log processing?

(Not that that isn't a very valid use for Perl, but it's not perl
being used to power a site and make $$$)

>  Yahoo and Google (and the many companies they have swallowed like
>  overture, doubleclick, etc) still use a lot of perl to keep everything
>  together.

Hmm, think you'll need to find citations for that. There's some but
not much perl at Google. I work in production infrastructure, where
perl is often cited to be in heavier use than the front-end and I can
similarly assure you you won't find much perl there either.

That said, for those one-off command line jobs perl rules.

>  Nearly all the big/popular Rails and PHP rely on stuff like Perlbal,
>  Memcached, Mogile, etc to keep running.
>  >  LiveJournal, Typepad do use Perl. Anyone else??
> ITN, Guardian, NY Times, Salon,, craigslist, gumtree, and the
>  stalwarts of mod_perl like BBC, TicketMaster, etc.

That's cool.

>  > Any perl businesses with multi-<s>billion</s> million, even, dollar valuations?
>  >
>  >  Morgan Stanley doesn't count :-)
> Excluding banks rules out Credit Suise, Barclays Global Capital, etc,
>  I suppose you want to exclude all Finance Companies too.

There's a huge difference between perl being in occasional use as glue
and perl powering the backend analysis, etc.

That said, I don't know much in this area.

>  I believe Livejournal has been sold to a russian outfit for millions
>  of dollars relatively recently. 1 million USD is not far over 1/2

Yep, I listed that one.

>  million stirling, there are a LOT of companies using perl that far
>  excede that valuation, heck I imagine only a small proportion are
>  worth less.

Citation needed I'm afraid.


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