A modern looking portal Was: Better Perl
zzbbyy at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 07:22:28 BST 2008
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Greg McCarroll <greg at mccarroll.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 09:24:05PM +0100, Jonathan Tweed wrote:
> > But enough talking. What can we do about it? Will The Perl Foundation
> > pay for new sites? If not, why not?
> I 'spose you (someone) could put in a grant request along the lines
> * the proposer from the perl community would,
> - find a CSS/HTML / Designer type to do the work
> - act as the 'customer'
> * the aim would be to create a new site prototype for a perl
> news/gateway site, the final design would be available to any of
> the existing perl sites or a new one.
> * the amount of the grant would be reserved mainly for the designer
> type person and for any expenses of the proposer.
> ( also if anybody does do this, can I have a request - the design
> should include some sort of common site-link bar near the top so that
> ideally all the major perl sites that exist could eventually include
> it to bring some sort of uniformity to the perl web experience )
> Although to be honest I think this would be a piece of work that would
> be a better fit for a company that wanted to sponsor something for
> Perl and also had a great internal design team. I suspect that,
> http://www.rubyonrails.org/ 
> was developed just this way by sombody inside 37 signals.
I am not sure if you could find a designer to do that work for the
grant money. My understanding is that Perl devs take the grants as a
kind of subsistance salary - but have different motivations than money
- if you want to buy a good designer you'll need to cough the market
price for his work. And this is all complicated by the fact that it
is in dollars. Of course TPF can change their grant rules for this
Maybe the sponsoring company idea is really better in this case.
>  nice features of this site:
> - the colour fade at the top (don't stone me)
> - dynamic language (text) with big shiny icons
> - positive quote by an industry thought leader (ok get the stones
> - Q & A approach for easy accessibility to information and my
> favourite ... logos :-)
> ps random thought: just by mentioning RoR i'm potentially raising the
> web programming vs. general advocacy debate. one interesting thing
> a perl news site could do for general advocacy is run a series of
> articles, where each one is a focus on a specific industry.
> pps random thought 2: sometimes we just don't market community
> resources right. perlmonks can be very helpful to new people, yet
> we never hear of perl being congratulated for its 'free real time
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