Perl is Alive!

Tim Sweetman ti at
Mon Dec 8 20:09:16 GMT 2008

Obligatory Joel Spolsky quotation:


When uttered by a software developer, the term "marketing" simply  
stands in for all that business stuff: everything they don't actually  
understand about creating software and selling it.

This, actually, is not really what "marketing" means. Actually  
Microsoft has pretty terrible marketing. Can you imagine those  
dinosaur ads actually making someone want to buy Microsoft Office?

Software is a conversation, between the software developer and the  
user. But for that conversation to happen requires a lot of work  
beyond the software development. It takes marketing, yes, but also  
sales, and public relations, and an office, and a network, and  
infrastructure, and air conditioning in the office, and customer  
service, and accounting, and a bunch of other support tasks...



On 8 Dec 2008, at 19:47, Kent Fredric wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Mike Whitaker <mike at>  
> wrote:
>> On 8 Dec 2008, at 04:25, bloke at wrote:
>>> The future is with the youth, and the solution is simple, as Tony  
>>> said
>>> "Education, Education, Education!".
>> I beg to differ.
>> "Marketing, marketing, marketing."
> Which in my dictionary is:
> "Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!".
> Wow, that's what ruby is doing.
> -- 
> Kent
> perl -e  "print substr( \"edrgmaM  SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
> 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );

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