Copyright Theft (was Re: # and believe me, Perl is still alive... still alive!...)

Paul Makepeace paulm at
Wed Dec 10 14:15:36 GMT 2008

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Aaron Trevena <aaron.trevena at>wrote:

> 2008/12/10 Paul Orrock <paulo at>:
> > Secondly I find myself surprised that in a discussion that is all about
> > leniency and being welcoming and not biting peoples heads off that you
> make
> > such a blanket assumption that the original poster was doing this
> > deliberately in full knowledge that it was copyright theft.
> He didn't make a blanket assumption, he put it down to being naive or
> something else
> (and TBH you'd have to be to not realise it was obviously copyright
> infringement).

The opening line was "I'll put your attempt to get us to participate in
copyright theft.." suggesting pre-meditation and malicious intent (which
actually logically contradicts the perceived motivation expressed
immediately afterwards but never mind that...), neither of which strikes me
as particularly likely, and thus I think Paul's read is pretty fair.

Let's just be nice, mm'kay?

Or should we engineer something so Leon gets to step in for a second time in
his so far illustrious career? :-) Ah, the duties of a wartime leader...


> > Had I discovered that site myself, via google (it appears as the third
> link
> > for programming perl) I would have made the assumption that it was a
> legal
> > site since I imagine ORA have lawyers that are looking for copyright
> > violations and would be great at getting Google to remove it even if they
> > can't get it removed from the ukranian server.
> Now, you're being naive. It's pretty obviously dodgy.
> > Yet again I find myself shaking my head in sadness at this list because
> yet
> > again someone has used a very large mallet to beat down an unknown poster
> > who was making a very valid point (he just happened to link to
> copyrighted
> > material, which yes he shouldn't have done) but he gets a huge long
> diatribe
> > rather than a simple "not sure if you realised but that site is hosting
> that
> > material illegally, please don't link to it again"
> Actually he got that.
> There was no diatribe, just a strict notice forbidding posting urls to
> such blatent copyright infringements.
> That's not harsh or unreasonable.
> A.
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