Project management

Adrian Howard adrianh at
Wed Jan 23 10:34:54 GMT 2013

Hey Dermot,

On 23/01/13 09:27, Dermot wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm pretty sure I've seen this discussed on the list before but I can't
> (easily) find it in the archive. I was looking for a Project management
> course or company. There are a lot of companies in London doing training
> but I am a little sceptical about their quality. I'm not interested in a
> certificate. I'd like to grasp a decent methodology. From what I've seen
> that would be Agile.

Agile != methodology. Agile = broad set of principles/philosophy on 
software development. Particular methods like Scrum, XP, Crystal are Agile.

Sorry - pet niggle. Caused by folk causing me problems by using Agile & 
Scrum as synonyms ;-)

> Does anyone want to tout a course or company. I
> promise not to sue if I think they're crap :-)

1) Consider Certified Scrum Master course.

The certification itself is pretty useless as a signifier of skill - it 
basically just means you attended a two day course - but the courses 
themselves tend to be quite useful.

The trainers are certified and generally pretty good. It does cost more 
than pocket change. However employers do take notice of CSM 
certifications - however foolish that may be.

The two day course will get you up to speed on the basics of Scrum, and 
usually some pointers to some technical practices that go some way to 
helping a Scrum implementation work.

More here

What this won't give you are insights into non-Scrum methods, and they 
tend to fuzz the Agile/Scrum/everything-else divide a bit from what I've 
heard from some folk.

(I am not a CSM. I am not a Certified Scrum Trainer. I think Scrum is a 
good method - but I have a long rant about the way Scrum gets 
abused/misused. I also think that certification in general has probably 
done more harm than good... but I digress...)

2) General Assembly and Skills Matters &

They both do free/cheapish courses with good presenters. Might be worth 
dipping a toe in here.

3) Try a local agile event

I assume that you're London based. There are some great local Agile 
events that it might be worth toddling along too and quizzing folk.

The Extreme Tuesday Club is one

4) Try some background reading

I still stand by this list 'o' books as good introductions

Also <bias="hubris">Agile training/workshops is something I do a bit 
myself</bias> - drop me a line if y'like ;-)



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