Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboards Rock/Suck (the "no good Perl jobs"/"ergo keyboards" myth)

dams dams at
Fri Aug 11 12:03:14 BST 2006

Le Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:01:49 +0200,
"Rafael Garcia-Suarez" <rgarciasuarez at> a écrit :

> On 09/08/06, Andy Wardley <abw at> wrote:
> > Now don't start me on Apple's keyboards...  I really struggle to
> > comprehend how a company that makes such beautiful and well thought
> > out hardware/software can fail so miserably in keyboard design and
> > layout!
> The poorest ever keyboard I ever saw ever is an iBook French keyboard.
> Not only has is non-letter keys in strange places, but all the signs
> that programmers or even shell users need (like [], {} or | to name a
> few) do not appear on it. You have to guess and learn how to type
> them. Also, its key feedback is disagreeable, and it's fragile.

Well, I own an ibook with french layout (is that mine that you saw ? :)

- It looks fragile, that's for sure, but it is not really fragile, I
never had any problem, and I'm known for not handling my keyboards with

- On the layout, there are some good things : the @ is directly
accessible, (unlike the alt-3 french pc layout). the [], {} are
actually OK, even if they are not visible. It's pretty similar to the
french PC layout. And I personnaly like the \, ~ and | combos, they are
logical : | is on the L key, \ is on the / key, ~ is on the N key. So
it's visually easy to remember them, and the combo key (alt) is the
same. It's also easier to type, unlike ALT-GR 8 and 6 and 2 on french

So, compared to us or uk layout, it's probably porr, but ibook french
layout is really better than french PC layout. IMHO of course :)


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