Celebrate the Decline and Fall of the U.S. Empire at YAPC::NA::2008
Paul Makepeace
paulm at paulm.com
Thu Mar 13 15:51:32 GMT 2008
Aww, those poor minorities (Brits) getting up in arms about their
niche language modifications!
Come on now, changing -ize to -ise: not the smartest move, eh? The
clue's in the sound!
(It is mildly irritating seeing developers make a pitiful stand about
this naming CPAN modules ending in ise.)
P
On 3/13/08, Mark Keating <mdk at shadowcatsystems.co.uk> wrote:
> To be absolutely fair the only people who refer to it as British English
> are not from Britain.
>
> Also it isn't a divergence it is an evolution, we cannot diverge from
> our own language.
>
> American/Pidgin/Australian Englishes etc and eta al are the 'divergent'
> forms by this definition, as for their hegenomy that's a hugely
> different argument.
>
> But English has always been a slut of a language, mostly Germanic with
> some Latin rules, a host of stolen words from French (beef, rendevouz,
> entrepaneur etc.) and the casual nature to absorb what it cannot simulate.
>
> I love it.
>
> But it doesn't belong to anyone. And comparitively it is closer to 13th
> Century Flemish (but there again we always did have more history ;p )
>
> Also there are many great American Linguists who could argue this for
> you, see Labov or Chomsky for example. You guys are generally lovely,
> your 'Prezident'(1) is a Pillock ;)
>
> 1. Stop putting Zs in our words or we'll get our own back
>
>
>
> Jonathan Rockway wrote:
> > * On Thu, Mar 13 2008, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> >
> >> Can we have our language back now please? You people have nearly
> >> destroyed it.
> >>
> >
> > To be fair, both British English and American English are two separate
> > languages that once shared a (now dead) ancestor. As far as I know,
> > your guys' version of English has diverged more from 18th century
> > English than ours has, however.
> >
> > http://www.englishclub.com/english-language-history.htm
> >
> > Never let facts get in the way of bashing us stupid Americans.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jonathan Rockway
> >
> >
>
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>
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>
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