jonathan at tweed.name
Sun Apr 6 22:24:03 BST 2008
On 6 Apr 2008, at 21:13, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> It may not be just Python and Ruby. I think that there was also the
> problem that post 2001 some people kept liking Perl, so were
> prepared to be
> paid less to work on Perl, with the result that many Perl jobs paid
> (and were able to pay less) than than (say) Java jobs to get the same
> calibre of person. So people don't go into Perl for the money,
> which also
> reduces the talent pool.
Ah that makes sense. I'm pretty new to this game. 2001 is before my
> I know that the Birmingham.pm world tour included UKUUG this year,
> and there
> were a lot of Perl talks. Also OSCON's Perl track (and talks) are
> stronger this year than last year.
> I guess that part of the problem is that the Perl community is too
> damn good
> at putting on Perl conferences and workshops, so most people are
> (often in their native languages) by these.
Very true. The Perl conferences I've been too have been fantastic.
> Maybe we should get less good at this :-)
> But then we can't put that as a plus point of Perl.
I know you're joking but definitely not! It is a major plus point to
have such consistently good, well organised events.
>> A Windows download that doesn't take you to a commercial site
>> that puts
>> the free downloads right at the bottom of the page under a whole load
>> of pay for products.
> This may be viable to change now, thanks to Adam Kennedy's work on
> and Vanilla Perl.
The Strawberry Perl site gets a lot of things right, but it would
definitely be best if it wasn't a separate site.
> So we have perlbuzz.org, perl.org *and* perlfoundation.org. Maybe
> this is part
> of the problem.
I think it is. A new perl.org that combines the best bits of all
three would be fantastic and something I'd love to get involved with.
I suspect this isn't the right list for those discussions. Which
would be the right one?
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