On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 07:08:18PM +0000, James Laver wrote: > With all of these code-based things going on, I'm inclined to suggest > a more disturbing challenge - overcomplicating "hello world" Cheap joke I know, but isn't the canonical example of this simply to write it in Java? What does the most golfed down Java implementation look like? Nicholas Clark