PHP sucks dick through a straw

Adriano Ferreira a.r.ferreira at
Fri Jan 12 11:39:22 GMT 2007

On 1/12/07, Daniel Barlow <dan at> wrote:
> Jeff Anderson wrote:
> > What kills me about PHP (i was coding up some recently) is that an objects
> > attributes and methods have to be called in different ways:
> >
> > $object->attribute;
> > $object->method();
> Not really seeing this is evil, it's just "not what you're used to".
> If the language parses $object->method as a /call/ to method, you have
> no way to refer to the method object itself.

The method invocation with the trailing parenthesis is consistent with
the Perlish invocation of subroutines as "fun" or "fun()". I think
this derives from the similarity with shell languages which avoids
unnecessary characters, just as the syntax for list functions:
         print "a ", "b ", "c ", "\n"
rather than
         print("a ", "b ", "c ", "\n")

> Note that I have no idea whether you /can/ refer to the method itself
> in PHP and don't care enough about that ridiculous excuse for a
> language to find out, but you'll find a similar distinction in Scheme,
> Javascript, and probably quite a lot of languages.  Even C - although
> obviously there it's about plain old functions, not methods.

As a matter of fact, you have the ugly


where there is no difference between attributes and methods (because
you really didn't need to know it for sure -- it is a matter of

And that does not work all the time because the method can be
implement by AUTOLOAD.

It is different in Javascript, Scheme and C because these languages
avoid the kind of many ways to express a thing that Perl is so fond


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