Agents part CCXXXIV

Abigail abigail at
Mon Dec 3 13:30:19 GMT 2012

On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 12:58:14PM +0000, Aaron Trevena wrote:
> On 3 December 2012 12:05, James Laver <james.laver at> wrote:
> > On 3 Dec 2012, at 06:38, Uri Guttman <uri at> wrote:
> >
> >> one reason i ask my candidates where else they are being submitted is to avoid those duplications.
> >
> > Bullshit. You ask because you want to try and muscle in on those positions. If you really asked permission before submitting every time (as you claim later in your email) you'd never be in a position of double submission. Pimp standard trick #4.
> Belt and braces - if you ask somebody "This cool role at X, do you
> want me to send your CV" they'll not always remember or mention that
> they've already applied for a role there, if you ask where, you're
> more likely to avoid.
> I really can't see Uri pulling a trick like that, nor some of the
> other decent recruiters I've worked with (double submissions are bad
> for them both in immediate lost commision, and loss of reputation,
> where they're worked to establish some)

I've had a recruiter ask me for exclusiveness (asking me not to apply
anywhere without asking him, and not to use other recruiters in the mean
time). I agreed because:

  - I was looking for a position, contacting his office
  - He asked for a week, promising three job *offers* (not just interviews)
    by the end of the week (on a Monday afternoon, promising offers by

He did come through on his promises. Had my first interview the same
evening, and by Friday morning, I did have three offers. And all three
a good fit with my resume.

And half a year later, when I bailed out of the job I picked, just before
the company went bankrupt, he did the same thing for me. I contacted
him on Monday, and by Friday I had three offers.

He also promised me to never contact me with "opportunities", and he 
indeed never did. 



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